However, to our surprise and delight the road was widened and all signage regarding the temporary access were removed. This happened to my best recollection before year 2000. The widening of the road was mandated by the city with the responsibility for the construction the developers.
It seems clear to me that the signage was removed to accommodate developer’s ability to sell the properties in both Rocky Ridge and Royal Oak.
Curious isn’t it?
-- Arun and Anne Gatha
I bought 2 houses in the community within the last 5 years and I never saw any road signs indicating that this is temporary access. Also, the builders (Cedarglen and Trico) did not provide any such information when selling us the houses. I agree with Arun and Anne that the information about the closure was not easy to access in order to accomodate developer's ability to sell the properties in Rocky Ridge and Royal Oak.
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I have lived in the community for 8 years now and have always known it was temporary. Its impossible to have the LRT, the ring road and rocky ridge road all work together. Pick two.
ReplyDeleteYou knew for 8 years? Great! what bearing does that have on the fact that I didn't know until a month ago? None! I thought this was a temporary closure! Permanently closing this road is nuts!
ReplyDeleteImpossible?! Pick two?!?! Whatever!!! There is sooo much room there. They could totally make it work if they weren't incompetent, cheap, or lazy. Pick two.
There won't be room once the on-ramp from SB Stoney to WB Crowchild is built. At least not enough to allow safe merging.
ReplyDeleteThere is also plenty of room between Tuscany Blvd and Crowchild Trail, but that intersection is also being moved. Partly due to the proximity to the same interchange.
The city published information about this years ago. It is unfortunate that the developers did not inform potential buyers of the plans however.
"... published information about this years ago."?!? Yeah.. it shows!
ReplyDeleteThis is obviously not a plan that takes the current reality into account!
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ReplyDelete>> There won't be room once the on-ramp from SB Stoney
>> to WB Crowchild is built. At least not enough to
>> allow safe merging"
You seem to know much in terms of details as to what is planned and what is possible.
We could use your help/expertise, as well as your support in detailing a solution that all parties can at the very least accept.
Can you honestly tell us that it is literally impossible to find a win/win solution?
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M.
Hi Mike,
ReplyDeleteThe only "expertise" that I have is based on the plans I have seen provided by the city and the province.
I have looked at the plans and I'm not sure how RRR can be incorporated with the new interchange. You can even see the extent of the ramps on this relatively-recent satellite/aerial image (you can see some of the future ramps where the earth has been moved already) :
http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.135363,-114.232578&spn=0.019254,0.038624&t=k&z=15
Initially I thought that limited interchange would be possible to allow RRR to EB Crow and a WB Crow to RRR might work. This would accommodate the majority of the traffic as most people go from RR/RO to the city and the back again.
But looking at the plans and the images, this would be next to impossible without having some very dangerous weaving (exiting, decelerating cars would have to cross with entering, accelerating cars).
I think that an exit going under the SB Stoney to WB Crow might be possible (much like how the exit from WB Crow to Northland goes under the on-ramp from Brisbois/Brentwood onto WB Crow.
Getting from RRR onto EB Crow would be the most difficult part I think. Not only would you have to go over Crowchild, you would have to somehow merge onto EB Crow right where there is going to be an exit and an on-ramp. I simply can't see it fitting in there safely.
Of course plans can be changed, but I don't see much wiggle room without compromising access and flow to the main interchange at Stoney and Crowchild.
I'm certainly not trying to antagonize here. Poor planning and communication by the city, the province, and probably most of all, the developers have all contributed significantly to the problem here. I think that everyone can agree on that, and I can certainly see how people are upset about this.
And I also agree that Country Hills Blvd. needs to be connected to at least form a perimeter road around the community to reduce internal traffic.
That being said, I don't have the holy grail here. I don't know that a configuration that is satisfactory to all is possible, although that would be nice.
Those of you who are/were unaware that this road was closing need to stop blaming someone else for your lack of information and realize that perhaps you should have done some more planning before moving into the community. I moved into Royal Oak 4 years ago and from the very moment I began my research it was 100% clear that this road was to be closed to accomodate the ring road and the LRT expansion. Using City of Calgary and Government of Alberta websites I can see updates on the closure of Rocky Ridge Road even as early as November 2004 - so in my opinion, the information has been readily available. It might also be worth mentioning that when I purchased my home the real estate agent & builder(Elite) provided copies of the original community developement proposal dated in 1994 so we could see the plan was that the road was going to be closed - even as long as 15 years ago.
ReplyDeleteMy apologies to those of you who feel that the closure of the road will lead to inconveniece for you, but based on the information available it should come as no surprise.
What were the results from the May 11 Council meeting? There is no mention of it anywhere.
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